I took a couple of shots at the Simon Fraser philosophy department yesterday for the grossly misleading tone they use talking about the job market. So in the interest of fairness, I also want to draw your attention to something they’re doing very right.
You can see from their page for prospective grad students that they’ve got a terminal MA program, and they’re pitching it hard. That’s exactly what most philosophy departments way down off the bottom of the rankings should be doing. Terminal MAs give students a taste of grad school in philosophy, but without any pretense that as of yet it’s professional training.
My understanding of this isn't really based on anything, but I have this idea that terminal MA programs are a lot more common in the
Sunday, July 8, 2007
In the Dealership, Trying to Get a Test Drive
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Most Canadian students do an MA degree (one or two years, course-based or thesis) before deciding on a PhD. Very few people go from a BA to a PhD program, and that mostly at programs such as Toronto which like to think of themselves as in the big leagues with American departments.
--it's worse in Canada
You might want to draw your readers attention to the absurd lies directed toward potential PhD students on the website of the University of Guelph.
http://www.uoguelph.ca/philosophy/
one of the leading departments in NA? Yeah, maybe leading at sucking.
One of the largest and best-respected PhD programs in Canada? You might notice the most recent Leiter report has Guelph still teamed up with two other universities to offer a joint PhD. And they, even teamed up as a threesome, can't manage to make a ranking.
I know people who are taken in by this shit and then, years later, can't understand why they are unemployed and unemployable.
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