tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post8661042662719296478..comments2023-08-08T00:37:45.098-07:00Comments on A Philosophy Job Market Blog: I Jump Through Hoops and Loop De LoopPseudonymous Grad Studenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00627480292942427387noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-27467755807104470992007-12-10T00:21:00.000-08:002007-12-10T00:21:00.000-08:00wow goldcheap wow goldbuy wow goldworld of warcraf...<A HREF="http://www.buywowgold.org.cn" REL="nofollow">wow gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.buywowgold.org.cn" REL="nofollow">cheap wow gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.buywowgold.org.cn" REL="nofollow">buy wow gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.buywowgold.org.cn" REL="nofollow">world of warcraft gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.buy-wow-gold.org.cn" REL="nofollow">wow gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.buy-wow-gold.org.cn" REL="nofollow">cheap wow gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.buy-wow-gold.org.cn" REL="nofollow">buy wow gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.buy-wow-gold.org.cn" REL="nofollow">world of warcraft gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.lotro2gold.cn" REL="nofollow">lotro</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.lotro2gold.cn" REL="nofollow">lotro gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.guildwars2gold.cn" REL="nofollow">guild wars</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.guildwars2gold.cn" REL="nofollow">guild wars gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.dofus2kamas.cn" REL="nofollow">dofus</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.dofus2kamas.cn" REL="nofollow">dofus kamas</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.nbatop.com" REL="nofollow">nba live</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.nbatop.com" REL="nofollow">火箭</A><BR/><A HREF="http://ggtop.nbatop.com" REL="nofollow">google排名</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.guild-wars-online.com" REL="nofollow">guild wars gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.guildwars.cc" REL="nofollow">guild wars gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.guild-wars-money.com" REL="nofollow">guild wars gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-gold.com" REL="nofollow">runescape</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-gold.com" REL="nofollow">runescape money</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-gold.com" REL="nofollow">runescape gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-gold.com" REL="nofollow">buy runescape money</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-gold.com" REL="nofollow">buy runescape gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-money.com" REL="nofollow">runescape</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-money.com" REL="nofollow">runescape money</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-money.com" REL="nofollow">runescape gold</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-money.com" REL="nofollow">buy runescape money</A><BR/><A HREF="http://www.rs2-money.com" REL="nofollow">buy runescape gold</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-22756330217434133822007-10-19T15:06:00.000-07:002007-10-19T15:06:00.000-07:00ITPF:Thanks. That's helpful to hear. However (yo...ITPF:<BR/><BR/>Thanks. That's helpful to hear. However (you knew there'd be one of those), you seem to be assuming that coursework is the only way/best way/main way that people learn a field. I'd disagree. I think there are a lot of ways to gain competence in a field. In my case, I learned some subjects in coursework, and others while prepping for my exams, and still others while writing the diss.<BR/><BR/>Let me give another example. There's one job in JFP this month that states the criteria they'll use to decide whether candidates are qualified to teach a particular AOC: if they have research in the field, and if they have taught it. The one qualification they leave out is if candidates were actually trained in the field. In that case, I think coursework matters (it should also be in the list at least), but it's nice to see that other standards are also acknowledged (though having taught a course by itself may not be much of a qualification).<BR/><BR/>Oh, lastly: what about folks coming out of school who list courses on their CV? I don't, but would that suffice, or are you worried about candidates lying?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-17461259224850607842007-10-19T13:05:00.000-07:002007-10-19T13:05:00.000-07:00You raise a new question here... why ask for them ...You raise a new question here... why ask for them at all -- vs. how can I cope with the requirement...<BR/><BR/>I'll tell you that I looked at them for a few reasons...<BR/><BR/>1) Because candidates, and their letters, often are vague about how, exactly, they meet the minimum qualifications. Also, because candidate's letters often actually LIE about meeting the qualifications.<BR/><BR/>2) Because the HR robots want them eventually and there is no reason to even put someone on my top 20 list if they can't meet the HR requirements.<BR/><BR/>3) Because I want to see why a candidate claims their particular AOCs... usually the AOS is obvious from their dissertation title... but sometimes not.<BR/><BR/>4) Because we have a small depatment and want candidates with the background to teach all of our courses.... and, the fact of the matter is that they'll be low on the rotation so they'd better be able to teach what I don't want to teach. A CV isn't usually clear about coursework. <BR/><BR/>I personally look carefully at transcripts for diversity because we had a 1-year person whose only philosophy "credits" were for an Aristotle Reading group he did 6 times (3 credits each) -- the work wasn't graded and there was no intellectual rigor... his hire happened without me...<BR/><BR/>5) Because establishing a reasonable number of hoops lets me eliminate some of the 500+ candidates who think they can teach philosophy, but aren't good at details and thus will end up dumping all the deailed work on me. I already have enough to do without chasing someone down for the final version of their schedule.<BR/><BR/>6) Because we can explain to the non-philosophy members of our committee (our college is weird, committees are cross-disciplinary) general words to look for in order to insure diversity of experience. This gives them some more objective means to promote or reject people.<BR/><BR/>In our defense, at our college we ask for the following: 1) cover letter, 2) CV, 3) copy of transcripts. We don't ask for letters, rather we ask for phone information to contact references on finalists. <BR/><BR/>Notice, we also don't ask for a teaching philosophy, a writing sample or a pint of blood. That is because we are a philosophy "Factory" with emphasis on the "factory" part, and all we really want to know is if you can teach.<BR/><BR/>Sorry to hijack the comments, but I wanted y'all to know what I've learned in the past few searches.Inside the Philosophy Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12255753259090709877noreply@blogger.com