tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post3772842591987185508..comments2023-08-08T00:37:45.098-07:00Comments on A Philosophy Job Market Blog: A Dollar When I'm Hard Up VIIIPseudonymous Grad Studenthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00627480292942427387noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-90240251371128646952008-03-04T19:19:00.000-08:002008-03-04T19:19:00.000-08:00I think it was UC Davis that said in their rejecti...I think it was UC Davis that said in their rejection letters that they had almost 500 applications.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-85454973923397939232008-03-02T13:47:00.000-08:002008-03-02T13:47:00.000-08:00Mr. Zero:You are right, I don’t know you. But her...Mr. Zero:<BR/><BR/>You are right, I don’t know you. But here is my offer to you. Send me your cover letter, your CV, and what ever teaching portfolio type thing you have via e-mail, and I will give you my honest feedback.<BR/><BR/>I once had a professor tell me that philosophy is an exercise in courage, so send it along. You sent it to 90 plus search committees you didn’t know, so send it along to me.<BR/><BR/>Here is the e-mail address I created for you to send it to me: helpingzero [at] yahoo.com<BR/><BR/>Even though I don’t know you, I know why I and the SCs I have been on reject people. Here are the last two lists on our eval form. (Yes we have a form, and we fill them out and then we talk about EVERY candidate.)<BR/><BR/>RATINGS (like GPAs):<BR/>Yes interview (4)<BR/>Likely (3) <BR/>Maybe (2)<BR/>Not Likely (1)<BR/>No interview (0)<BR/><BR/>REASON FOR REJECTION (we have to give our affirmative action office reasons why we reject members of protected classes. Since we don’t know who they are other than sometimes gender, we just keep a list for everyone.)<BR/><BR/>Wrong AOS<BR/>No PhD<BR/>Weak Letters<BR/>Suspect Teaching<BR/>Weak research potential<BR/>Other<BR/><BR/>Now, you can see some of the possible reasons you haven’t gotten a job based on my list. One or a combination of things is what happened. I once had a candidate write the wrong school name on the cover letter. I wasn’t that bothered b/c I know she probably sent out over 100 applications, but others were not so nice about it. They thought it quite sloppy. <BR/><BR/>So, send it along, and let’s see if I can help you out a bit.<BR/><BR/>If you don't like my advice you don't have to take it, and I have wasted only my time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-76516742504459669902008-03-01T10:29:00.000-08:002008-03-01T10:29:00.000-08:00Anon. 8.36:Congratulations! And what a *really* ni...Anon. 8.36:<BR/><BR/>Congratulations! And what a *really* nice gesture!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-91515430745182962712008-02-29T20:36:00.000-08:002008-02-29T20:36:00.000-08:00I'm at the end of a successful job hunt. PGS, than...I'm at the end of a successful job hunt. PGS, thank you for running this blog. It offered lots of helpful tips and a place to vent when things weren't going so well. <BR/><BR/>These 'Dollar when I'm Hard Up" posts make me wonder if there's some practical way that I can show my gratitude. Maybe a paypal transfer to an anonymous account or something like that. Obviously, my 'contribution' would be on the 'help with postage and coffee expenses' level rather than on the 'it doesn't matter that I didn't land the job' level, but if there's anything I (and other thankful bloggers/lurkers/etc) can do.... please let us know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-55445894717311342642008-02-29T19:11:00.000-08:002008-02-29T19:11:00.000-08:00FYI - You don't have to pay money for Adobe! As g...FYI - You don't have to pay money for Adobe! As grad students, we are already broke:) Download a free .pdf writer - I, for instance, use CUTEpdf and it works great for creating .pdf files for whatever purpose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-50068886916614185492008-02-29T15:19:00.000-08:002008-02-29T15:19:00.000-08:00anon 12:55 makes a good point about the hassle and...anon 12:55 makes a good point about the hassle and cost of compiling hard-copy applications, and the way in which that might (modestly) control the flood of applications that departments receive. of course, there are presumably more efficient ways of doing this such as, for example, imposing fees on applicants. no doubt, imposing fees would be a problematic solution in many respects. still, before we (applicants) dismiss this idea out of hand, it is worth considering the way in which this might (conceivably, subject to a careful working out of important difficulties) benefit us by significantly reducing - as 12:55 suggests - the noise that departments must sift through in order to hire a philosopher. A fee structure would plausibly increase the ratio of appropriately qualified and genuinely interested candidates to mere "hey, what the hell" applications. That would benefit appropriately qualified and genuinely interested candidates who don't have a blue chip school on their application. It also might benefit blue chip school applicants who have a genuine interest - for personal or professional reasons - in taking a position in a less prestigious department. Their willingness to pay the fee would provide at least a minimal signal of their genuine interest. By reducing the flood of applications that search committees receive, it also might tend to increase the average care and attention lavished to individual applications. <BR/><BR/>As far as the money from such fees goes - if we as a profession could sufficiently get our shit together, then the money could be put into some sort of fund to assist graduate students with particularly difficult financial situations.<BR/><BR/>The more general point - irrespective of the fee suggestion - is just that this process is noisy as hell in ways that are probably harmful to applicants, search committees, and the field overall. It is worth exploring intelligent ways to change this state of affairs, though I'm sure I don't have the answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-70718979960140695272008-02-29T15:11:00.000-08:002008-02-29T15:11:00.000-08:00anon 11:32,I'm down with online applications, prov...anon 11:32,<BR/><BR/>I'm down with online applications, provided (and somebody else made this point somewhere) it could be implemented in a way that wouldn't require us to do it all 90 different times. If they could do it well, it would be cool. (A priori, on the other hand, suggested that we just upload our materials to the web and invite SCs to download them at their leisure [or threaten to do that so that the dean would fork over some money for postage]. Which is stupid, and that's what I was talking about up there. Not your idea, which I like.) <BR/><BR/>a priori, <BR/><BR/>Maybe you think your advice is helpful. But seriously, it is not. You say, "Be proactive." "Use letterhead." (Actually, that one may not be bad, if you're not already using letterhead. But I am, and I don't know where you got the idea that I wasn't.) "Coffee is for closers." Your advice is vapid and superficial. And believe me, I am looking for all the help I can get, which is why I obsessively read this blog. But I find your advice next to useless and the snotty tone with which it is delivered next to infuriating. <BR/><BR/>Part of the reason your advice is so pitiful is that although you behave as though you've got me pegged, <B>you don't know who I am</B>. You don't know what department I'm at. You don't know who my advisor is, or what her placement record is like. You don't know how many pubs I have, or how far along on my dissertation I am, or what my letters say about me. Instead you just assume that since I performed poorly that my file is shitty and unprofessional. Which may be true, or it may not. You don't know. <BR/><BR/>There are thousands and thousands of reasons why someone might not get any interviews. You don't know what my problem is. How could you when you don't know me?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-37507614954148924612008-02-29T14:02:00.000-08:002008-02-29T14:02:00.000-08:00No No No. Don't buy Adobe Acrobat just to make a p...No No No. Don't buy Adobe Acrobat just to make a pdf from a Word document. Go to software995.com and download the pdf995 application. It is free and will let you create pdf from Word documents. When you want to create a pdf just file>print>select printer>pdf995. Its really easy to use. I've been using it for a long time now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-85699568420935498922008-02-29T12:55:00.000-08:002008-02-29T12:55:00.000-08:00I think there's an advantage to having job candida...I think there's an advantage to having job candidates print out and pay for (part of) their own applications: it provides a disincentive to just applying everywhere that has a job. Yes, it takes you an additional 5-20 minutes to write a new cover letter and print out a new application, and it costs a couple bucks, but SCs spend way more time having to read that application. I know that some places this year got over 400 applications. <BR/><BR/>More applications wouldn't just be annoying to SCs. Note that if they got twice as many, they would spend less time reading yours and pay even more attention to whether it has "Leiter top 15 school" written on the top.<BR/><BR/>[For the record, I spent over a month doing nothing but photocopying the darn thing and printing out cover letters (and I paid my own postage) and I still think it's a decent system.]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-67745866343262990702008-02-29T12:15:00.000-08:002008-02-29T12:15:00.000-08:00If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. ....If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. . . . If you can press a button, you can create a pdf.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-71358554885704206702008-02-29T11:34:00.000-08:002008-02-29T11:34:00.000-08:00mr. zero: look up "straw man"mr. zero: look up "straw man"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-18990753233300813612008-02-29T11:32:00.000-08:002008-02-29T11:32:00.000-08:00A Priori,Your recent posts have become less vulgar...A Priori,<BR/><BR/>Your recent posts have become less vulgar, and you're hoping this will make you seem more rational. It does, up to a point. But the advice you're giving (or pretending to give, as Mr. Zero points out) is still condescending crap. Your attitude ultimately is "hey, I got a job, and I'm great, so the system obviously works, and if you don't have a job, something's got to be wrong with you." That's really all you have to say, and since you come off on this blog as a complete chickenshit (I'll admit, maybe you're a great person in real life and smile at puppies, and it's just your online persona that makes people want to fuck your mamma, so be it), it's hard for us to take your advice seriously.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Zero, I'm the one who proposed the online system, and I wasn't proposing one person do it unilaterally. Rather, if it were the norm then it would solve a lot of problems. Someone complained that it's an unfair burden on departments to ask an AA to spend a couple of days printing shit out, and all I can say to that is, yeah, I feel really sorry for the poor departments who are getting paid to do their job. <BR/><BR/>That's really what my complaint comes down to. Candidates are working for self interest, trying to get a job, and A Priori, I'm quite professional in how I present myself on paper and in interviews. But professors and administrators are getting paid to do this, and I detect, in jobs ads, in interviews, in every step of the process an attitude of "well, it's a buyer's market so I can be as arbitrary/lazy/insufferable as I choose to be." Now, I'll admit, I've had mostly great interviews and met lots of wonderful and generous people during searches where I didn't get the job. So I'm not all bitter. But I'm embittered by the whole process, and I think it's a fact that even friendly and well-meaning academics are often moderately to greatly incompetent. But they never suffer for this, we do (or students do when it's in the classroom, etc.). There's a real lack of accountability in education, not in the sense that politicians use the term, but in the sense of being lazy and unprofessional.<BR/><BR/>I'll stop ranting and point out two things quickly. One, I haven't collected hard copies of student papers for years: students turn them in, I grade and comment on them electronically, return them electronically. There's no need for paper for much of the hiring process either. Departments could read CVs electronically, or print them out if they're wedding to dead tress. I don't think it will happen, but I do want to point out that it's not just possible, but actually easy.<BR/><BR/>Second, PCs could produce PDFs in Word until, I think, Word 95. Now you just need to shell out $100 if you have an academic discount, buy Adobe Acrobat, and install it. Then producing PDFs in Word, for PCs, just requires one click of an icon. It's really not hard. And if we didn't have to spend so much on paper and postage, we could all afford to have Acrobat and more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-49043142459028818582008-02-29T11:04:00.000-08:002008-02-29T11:04:00.000-08:00Mr. Zero,(i) I think really a priori that you have...Mr. Zero,<BR/><BR/>(i) I think really a priori that you haven't gotten any interviews for lots of reasons. Most likely you don't come across well in your file. Maybe you aren't ready, I just don't know.<BR/><BR/>(ii) Having worked at three different universities, I know there is always money, you just have to know how to get it. Figure it out. In the grand university scheme, grade student requests are minor. You can get some of that cash. If you don't want to work to get some things, fine, do without.<BR/><BR/>(iii) In general, you have to have a never say die, always be positive in public, and make your requests reasonable as you can. Sometimes you have to be a pain to get stuff. I am certain that other department pay for things philosophy grads don't get. Go ask them! Then you have a reason to get what you want.<BR/><BR/>(iv) I am saying be proactive. I really think that if you are ABD and it is time for you to be on the market, then you should at least get ONE interview. If you got shut out, then you have got to do something different.<BR/><BR/>Now it is hard to give perfect advice via a blog. My points would be easier to make if I could talk to you and not have to try to type it all out with no proof reading b/c I am busy. But the point is that you have to do something different.<BR/><BR/>The advice that the one person gave about sending out e-mail to local universities to see if they need work. That was great advice; the kind of thing that a person that is willing to hustle does.<BR/><BR/>I love the movie _Glenngary Glenn Ross_ here is what I would say:<BR/><BR/>ABC: Always be closing. <BR/><BR/>Coffee and philosophy jobs are for closers. If your sales pitch doesn't work, fucking change it.<BR/><BR/>And yes, your attitude about the workings of a university are bad (or I should say seem bad from what I have read on this blog). This is what you have to deal with. Start dealing with it now, or get the fuck out. It is that simple.<BR/><BR/>I attribute my success to the help and encouragement of lots of people that saw that I really wanted it. If you haven't read the book: _Getting What You Came For: The Smart Student's Guide to Getting a MA or PhD_, then I recommend that you rush out and get a copy. <BR/><BR/>Getting done and getting a job is as much about politics and selling yourself as it is about how great a philosopher you are. Those are the facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-48857490017742272162008-02-29T09:13:00.000-08:002008-02-29T09:13:00.000-08:00a priori,If you thought I meant that the legislatu...a priori,<BR/><BR/>If you thought I meant that the legislature had passed a law forbidding our departments to pay our postage, I cannot believe that you would then turn around and complain that people were interpreting you uncharitably. Or, rather, I am appalled that you would do that, since you did. <BR/><BR/>What I meant was, the legislature refuses to appropriate adequate funds for dat-to-day operations, let alone luxury items such as postage for graduate students. <BR/><BR/>Look. I just don't see what your advice is. First you say I'm not getting any interviews because of my "attitude." I say, that's obviously not it. <BR/><BR/>Then you say that not only do I have the right attitude (about postage, at least), but I ought to do more, like threaten my department and my dean, in order to get them to pay my postage. I say, that won't work; it will make enemies out of everyone; it's in tension with your earlier advice.<BR/><BR/>You say to unilaterally go to online applications, posting my materials to the internet and making them available for download. I say, that won't work, either--no one would download it; it's inconsistent with your earlier advice about my attitude and with some other remarks about what it's reasonable to expect SCs to do.<BR/><BR/>Then you complain that I really ought to take you seriously, since you're really trying hard to give well-meaning and well-thought out advice from a guy who's been there and has been successful. <BR/><BR/>Well, good for you. I just don't see what you could possibly be talking about. You can't possibly think that you got interviews because your cover letters were on letterhead, or that I was shut out because mine weren't, can you? Or because your department paid for your postage? Or because you had the right attitude about the postage that you weren't paying? Do you think that's why you got interviewed? Because when I read your comments, these are the things you talk about. If you think you're being misinterpreted, you should seriously consider whose fault it really is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-77030355654461625002008-02-29T09:11:00.000-08:002008-02-29T09:11:00.000-08:00One last justification for my point:Having a facul...One last justification for my point:<BR/><BR/>Having a faculty job is difficult in the following sense. You have to compete for money to travel and raises and the like. And no one will defend you except you.<BR/><BR/>And if you don't have the cojones to ask for money to pay for postage and other justified graduate expenses, then you will not make it to a job much less to tenure.<BR/><BR/>On a VAP I got a teaching reduction and a grant from the university to do research. <BR/><BR/>When I was in grad school, I asked grad students in different departments what they were making and what they got. You would be surprised at what others get that you don't. When you tell your chair, she might be surprised too. Then ask for those things.<BR/><BR/>Budgets are tight, but the costs associated with grad students is very low in the overall budget.<BR/><BR/>You could ask for 30 files to be paid in the first round and for all temp and jobs after Feb and the like to be paid. Then Zero, you would only have to pay for some.<BR/><BR/>Don't think of this as an all or nothing proposition. You have to pave the way for your own success. Not just in grad school, but when you get out too.<BR/><BR/>You think your chair is going to do your bidding with the dean? Probably not. She has other issues too. <BR/><BR/>I also said take up a collection from SENIOR faculty. The burdens of younger faculty are large, and I would be willing to bet that they would be willing to help anyway.<BR/><BR/>Ultimately if you don't hustle and try to get more, you won't.<BR/><BR/>And for the record Zero, I think you don't have a job b/c your file doesn't say: LOOK AT ME. TAKE A CHANCE ON ME. INTERVIEW ME! You think the process is capricious and random. And I am not trying to be an ass about this at all. But if you cannot stand out just a bit and get one interview, then you really should think about changing your currently unsuccessful strategy.<BR/><BR/>I have shared some of the things I did that worked. If you don't like them, fine, but what you cannot do is ridicule them because they worked, and in the end, that's all the matters in the job hunt: success.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-47362216808644736902008-02-29T09:04:00.000-08:002008-02-29T09:04:00.000-08:00"Unless it is Mississippi, which doesn't have PhD ..."Unless it is Mississippi, which doesn't have PhD programs in philosophy, that sounds like admin bullshit.."<BR/><BR/>Louisiana doesn't have public PhD programs in philosophy either--just an MA at LSU. <BR/><BR/>(Which I hear is de facto open admission. So maybe de facto no publically-funded grad. programs in LA.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-88355900045858532322008-02-29T08:22:00.000-08:002008-02-29T08:22:00.000-08:00An organized and motivated group of graduate stude...An organized and motivated group of graduate students who are planning to be on the market in, say, 2009 should bring this issue to the APA Committee on the Status and Future of the Profession, along with concrete solutions. You should do the same regarding the burdens of traveling to APA interviews. <BR/><BR/>The conditional loans proposed above are a good idea. We could also try to establish a practice of hiring departments reimbursing either the hiree or the degree-granting departments who front the money to their graduate students. And the profession could be encouraged to move to online applications (in some way that avoids the result that job applicants have to apply online separately to every individual job, because that would be a disaster).<BR/><BR/>As a number of people have noted, haranguing your department (or asking nicely!) isn't going to work at a lot of places, because a lot of places really don't have the money. I know that's true of my department, and my college more broadly. Taking up a collection from the faculty is a charming idea, but we're talking probably at least a couple thou a year (depending on how many people go out, etc). My junior faculty budget is actually pretty tight, between costs of home-ownership, kids, paying off partner's student loans, ... I'm not saying I couldn't squeeze out a couple hundred a year to help the cause, but there are better solutions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-67266324111437865062008-02-29T06:35:00.000-08:002008-02-29T06:35:00.000-08:00anon 2:10,Not to defend a priori or anything--I wo...anon 2:10,<BR/><BR/>Not to defend a priori or anything--I wouldn't do that--but the procedure you describe works only on Apple computers. It's due to the native PDF-making software Steve Jobs was thoughtful enough to include in OSX, and is not a behavior supported by MS Word. Windows people have to figure out a way do it on their own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-7492466174875795242008-02-29T06:30:00.000-08:002008-02-29T06:30:00.000-08:00Yeah, or you could go and religiously read the oth...Yeah, or you could go and religiously read the other job market blog at:<BR/>http://anotherphilosophyjobmarketblog.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>That one post is sure cool!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-41927340272592975172008-02-28T19:38:00.000-08:002008-02-28T19:38:00.000-08:00To Zero and misc Anons:(i) Cover letter on letterh...To Zero and misc Anons:<BR/><BR/>(i) Cover letter on letterhead, not the entire paper. Be charitable. If you ever had a real job you would understand what professional standards are like. I have seen over 600 files and many of them are poorly done. I know of people that send papers out in all kinds of shitty forms, and I have seen the job files of the same form.<BR/><BR/>(ii) Since I was never shut out at an APA (five years, with one year that I shouldn't have been out) and always had multiple on campus visits and have a job with a 3/3 load and great pay (thanks union) and had multiple offers when I accepted, I might have something to add to this conversation. How I was successful. How I tried to support myself and other grads.<BR/><BR/>(iii) My main point is that you should be proactive. If you don't ask for things (and demand) in some cases, you won't get them.<BR/><BR/>I gave my advice here b/c I really wanted to help grad students that are struggling. I didn't go to a leiterrific school, but I worked my ass off and made it happen. If you want to waste away and cry about postage, then don't take my advice. The point was to shame your head/dean/provost/prez into paying for postage. I didn't actually mean for you to do it. But hey, you couldn't have done worse and would have saved money on postage.<BR/><BR/>As for state schools and legislators and postage. Unless it is Mississippi, which doesn't have PhD programs in philosophy, that sounds like admin bullshit. I don't believe it. Put the link to the law in question. Plus, how might that get enforced, but I digress.<BR/><BR/>As for Zero. If you really did apply for 90 job and you didn't get a single interview, phone or the like and let's say that each school on average interviews 15 people, then you didn't get 1 out of 1350 interview slots. Keep doing what you are doing man, but I don't think you have a lot of room to turn down advice you haven't tired, but keep rocking your success at getting nothing.<BR/><BR/>As for people like anon 4:14, your rhetorical question is silly. I hope you enjoy working at Walmart this summer.<BR/><BR/>And I couldn't agree more with this: "This blog is getting increasingly pathetic."<BR/><BR/>And the advice to PGS to stop the blog and get back to work.<BR/><BR/>Good luck everyone!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-41765321278068153962008-02-28T19:05:00.000-08:002008-02-28T19:05:00.000-08:00Cut the blog authors a break. Sometimes I vent in...Cut the blog authors a break. Sometimes I vent in ways that may make me appear to be more depressed/desperate/anxious than I really am. It's a natural human reaction to stress. This is the outlet for the authors and some commenters. The rest of you can observe our venting or read Drudge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-65038348298775090512008-02-28T18:28:00.000-08:002008-02-28T18:28:00.000-08:00This blog is getting increasingly pathetic. It sta...This blog is getting increasingly pathetic. It started out as a good source of information about, essentially, the philosophy job market. Now I (and I suspect many others) only come here for a laugh. I really hope you never get a job in philosophy. You never seem to do any work because you're always so depressed about how much work you do. If I were you I would give up writing this blog UNTIL you have a job and then come back in all your glory to prove people like me wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-51974926373257226962008-02-28T16:14:00.000-08:002008-02-28T16:14:00.000-08:00So, a priori, I'm not getting hired because I have...So, a priori, I'm not getting hired because I have a bad attitude about postage, and also I should try to force my department to pay my postage for me by threatening to send out embarrassing cover letters? <BR/><BR/>Also, I really think you're on to something when you say that "an indication of how good a program is in terms of support is do they pay for your applications." Obviously Leiter has been going about it all wrong. If you want a reliable ranking of graduate programs, just figure out how much postal support they offer. That's what really matters. <BR/><BR/>Are you for real?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-12090077544033484292008-02-28T14:10:00.000-08:002008-02-28T14:10:00.000-08:00"As for electronic applications. I know for a fact..."As for electronic applications. I know for a fact that many people cannot make PDF files. Most job applicants aren't as tech savvy as you would think."<BR/><BR/>How to make a pdf file:<BR/><BR/>in MS Word:<BR/><BR/>File-->Print-->PDF-->Save as PDF<BR/><BR/>If that qualifies as tech-savviness, then call me Steve fucking Jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1944513327283802005.post-49095226470596506002008-02-28T13:22:00.000-08:002008-02-28T13:22:00.000-08:00Wait, I'm confused, apriori. Using letterhead to ...Wait, I'm confused, apriori. Using letterhead to send out a paper? Do you mean, on a letter accompanying the article? An entire article on letterhead sounds silly. Anyway, my impression is that most submission is electronic at this point anyway.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com